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09/24/18 01:48 AM #589    

 

Marilyn Wolfe (Ruben)

oh! Anne Ferrell, what an ordeal you both went through!  You two have clearly "beat the odds" on Patience!

Please know that all of us have been thinking of you & worrying about you, & we are so happy you are both safe  & sound, and your house, too!

Hope the tree removal goes smoothly & you two stay in good health!

Love & thanks for your message!

Mar-


09/24/18 06:40 AM #590    

 

Sally Kincannon (von Rumohr)

SUCH good news Anne Ferrell!  Thank you for letting us know that you’re both safely back at home.  Last fall it was our son in Florida and a dear friend in Sonoma we worried about:-(.  It seems that this season has become fraught with the wrath of Mother Nature!  xo


09/24/18 08:47 AM #591    

 

Jo-Ann Olkowski

So very glad to see that classmates are slowly but surely being able to get in contact to let us know they are o.k.  I'm glad I have this "pocket" thing on my computer even though I don't quite understand it!  My computer remains compromised by unwanted "forces."  I went into this pocket thing directly to my TJ thing to find one post from Mariilyn Wolfe Ruben posted on 9/20 ... and I have yet to see an email saying there was a post from her!  It's not Mike's fault - I get fake emails from the class that are obviously fake by the way they are sent/worded.

I get lots of fake emails!  I can apparently get all the cannibus I want; but I can even top Bill Clinton on that one! Not only have I never inhaled ... I've never held any of it in my fingers! LOL!  I know that some messages get blocked on my Ancestry account when I go in and have a notice that some family member has contacted me. A few hours or a day or two later I finally get the email saying I have I message from that member.  It is what it is!

In any event, I'm very glad to hear from classmates who can get through.

Love to all.

Jo-Ann


09/24/18 10:46 AM #592    

 

Mary Nelson Payne (Reynolds)

Anne Ferrell,

So glad you all made it through Florence pretty well.  It is so good to hear from everyone down there who endured Florence.  My older brother lives in New Bern, so you can imagine how I worried about them, particularly because they elected to ride it out.  Their entire first floor is being gutted out and they are staying at night in a room a friend is letting them use.  They are required to be at the house every day during repairs, so plaster and dust is part of life.  But they are all right and looking to the future with hope.  Their dog is enjoying the doggy spa all the while.  Some day all of you will hopefully look back on this horror as a story to tell.  Thanks again for letting all of us know you are all right.

Mary Nelson

P.S., Jo-Ann, I must say your computer woes were a fun relief from our worries about our Carolina friends.


09/24/18 12:13 PM #593    

 

Mike Floyd

I too am very glad everyone has survived the storms, Hurricanes & Tornadoes.  Just a quick note to anyone that has trees down.  If the tree is resting on any type of structure, house, tool shed, fence, etc. most homeowner’s policies will pay to have the tree removed.  I would think that this would apply if trees severely leaning toward a structure, but I’m not as sure of that. 

If you have the tree removed before your insurance company sees it be sure to take photographs of the tree and the structure and save your receipts.


09/24/18 11:47 PM #594    

 

Marilyn Wolfe (Ruben)

Jo-Ann, I never knew you were so funny!  You sound like me!  Everybody keeos saying "Change your Password," but the hackers will hack anyway, no matter what I do!  I also get my "Notifications" a day or so AFTER I have already read the message on this Website, Facebook, etc.  At my old email address, I received requests for money from Fundraising Programs &  also from Politicians running their campaigns 5 hours before the deadline or a day after the deadline, so that was a  good way to save my money!  Ha!  Ha!  

Anyway, I enjoy your little stories!  Keep them coming!


09/25/18 09:45 AM #595    

 

Jo-Ann Olkowski

Thanks, Marilyn!  Of course I'm funny ... I was just always too busy trying to hide myself in the shadows out of self shame/embarrassment of students I feared were so far superior to me both socially and intellectually.  Enough said.  So, yes, I'm funny - perhaps sometimes in a weird sort of way - perhaps sometimes in a Polish sort of way; but make no mistake:  I'm not THAT Polish!!  I have to be able to laugh at myself. How does the old saying go? "Laugh and the world laughs with you; cry and you cry alone."  Polish jokes don't bother me.  For instance, take the old joke about how many Poles it takes to screw in a lightbulb.  In my case it's one: me and a phone call to the maintenance people to screw in the bulb for me.  I HATE changing lightbulbs!  I can unplug all my lamps but the ceiling lights require a step-stool and I prefer to keep my feet firmly planted on the floor!

Take good care.

Jo-Ann


09/25/18 04:44 PM #596    

 

Marilyn Wolfe (Ruben)

 

Thanks, Mike, for the Sukot Greeting!   You are more aware of the Jewish Holidays than most people I know!

My professors at Arizona State University keep scheduling Tests on Rosh Hashanah & Yom Kippur, and this year, they did that in my Granddaughter's class, too! There are 2,000-3,000 Jewish students at ASU, but I guess the Professors don't read the emails from the Anti-Defamation League every Fall !

PS - My granddaughter just composed her first online feature story called "A week in healthy college living."  (She is "into" Fitness "Big Time!")You can find it under "The Chic Daily!" on Instagram, or on Twitter. (She sent me an email, 'cause I don't do those websites). Her name is Sammy Byrd!

Jo-Ann, I always knew we had something in common!  My ancestors were also Polish!  My Mom's Grand- parents came from a little town on the border of Poland, Russia, and Austria, called "Kamanetz-Podolski." It is no longer there, because it was absorbed into the Ukraine, where my Father's ancestors lived.  She could not read a word of English until she went to Kindergarten.  She was born in America, but the family read & spoke Yiddish (Hebrew & Polish mixed together).  She could read an entire Yiddish newspaper, sitting on her Grandfather's lap & write letters in Yiddish, but she never taught us about it!  It was "a secret language" between her & her Sisters & Brother & Cousins. Her Great-Grandfather was a Rabbi in Poland who wrote commentary on the Talmud (Jewish Law). That is probably why my Mom, my Sisters, and I are all so interested in "The Law" today, although none of us are Attorneys!  

 When I married Joel, my Mom used to write letters to his Grandmother ("Bubbie") in Yiddish!  "Bubbie" came from a tiny town in Russia  where the first Prime Minister of the State of Israel, Chaim Weizmann, lived. He looked exactly like Joel's Uncle in Chicago! - they were Cousins!  Another famous person there was the writer of Jewish stories, Sholom Aleichem (real name- Solomon Rabinowitz).  He was a funny man;  the play & movie, "Fiddler on the Roof" was derived from his stories!  Plus, there was an illiterate Jewish man in my Mom's Grandparents' town in Poland, who used to walk the kids to Hebrew School. He couldn't read or write, but he could SING & DANCE!  So that filtered down through our family, too, and ALL of us love Music & Dancing!  His nickname was "The Baal Shem Tov" ("Master of the Good Name"), and an entire group called the Lubavitchers exists today in many countries. (They wear tall hats, long black coats, and long beards.)

 My Dad's Grandfather came to the U.S.A. through England & when he reached Ellis Island, they changed his first name to his last name, because they couldn't read or spell his given last name. (That's how we ended up with the last name of Wolfe! My Dad added the "e" because he said "it looked like a Wolf without a tail!"

Anyway, this all goes to say that there are many types of intelligence: Musical, Artistic, & Literary Skills, in addition to Math, Science, etc. Read Howard Gardner's "Theory of Multiple Intelligences."  It is an Eye-Opener!

(PS- I also HATE changing lightbulbs on the ceiling!  I give that job to my daughter or my husband, because I am scared of heights & afraid to lose my balance!  So we have something else in common!)  I LOVE your stories!  Keep writing them!

 

 

 

 

 


09/26/18 07:41 PM #597    

 

Jo-Ann Olkowski

Ahh, Marilyn ... so you are Jewish with your ancestral roots Polish/Russian.  So is mine!  My Dad's familyn settled in Buffalo, NY.  His grandparents on both side entered the US in the 1880s at the Port of NY at Castle Garden (now a park/historical museum in lower Manhattan).  Ellis Island became the Port of Entry later.  Dad's paternal grandparents lived in territory controlled by the German Kaiser, his maternal grandparents lived in Russian held territory under the Czar.  Either way, all Poles were in deep trouble.  It's a country that's very, very rich in it's history and contributions to the betterment of mankind over the centuries. Unless you've already read it, I have a book recommendation for you:  Poland - A History by Adam Zamoyski. It's an excellent read with maps of the ever changing borders of Poland on all sides and some beautiful color pictures of Polish artifacts. It was only at the end of WWII that Poland had absolute borders as a nation, but you may already know that.

Also, if you have not already seen the movie "Imitation Game." It's an historical account of a brilliant Englishman whose efforts in WWII to solve the secret German communications system Code named "Enigma"  which ultimately saved England from total destruction from bombing by the German planes. There was little to nothing said, but at the same time there were 3 Polish Jewish scientists/ mathmatitions also trying to break the code. In short, this Englishman designed and built the first mainframe which over time would envolve into today's internet. 

I don't care what Al Gore said ... he did NOT invent the internet!  He is also not Jewish/Polish/Russian!  LOL!

We'll have to discuss further, Marilyn in another "venue."

Love to you and yours,

Jo-Ann


10/02/18 02:01 PM #598    

 

Marilyn Wolfe (Ruben)

Thanks, Jo-Ann, for those references!  I was going to Research "The History of Poland" a few years ago for a course I was taking on "Cultural Diversity in Education," so I could give an assigned Oral Report on the ancestors of "My Role Model," who was my Mother, or "The Ukraine," where my Dad's ancestors were born, but the Professor limited our choices to someone alive who could be interviewed, and they had both passed on, along with their Parents & Siblings. So I never completed that Research, and it is STILL something I need to do!  The "Russian Ancestry" is all my husband Joel's, on his Mother's side.  She & her Mother (his Grandmother) looked & acted exactly like Russian characters  you might see in a movie, and his Grandfather had already passed on.  The only possible relationship I could have to Russia would have been that Russia invaded BOTH Poland & The Ukraine, and the Cossacks invaded the Jewish community in a series of Pogroms, and THAT is why my Grandparents in BOTH countries decided to move to the U.S. A.!  I often wish I had asked my Mother questions about her Grandparents, who lived in her house when she was a child & never spoke a word of English! (Neither did she, until Kindergarten!)  But kids are not very foresighted, & most of that information was not discussed as part of our daily routine. It only "came to light," as they say, when my Mother began to write her memoirs for a book club she joined in Annapolis, Maryland, where she spent the last  5 years of her life with my Sister. She never saw the book published during her lifetime. My Sister & her Gardener (who was also a Photographer) gathered up the little stories & had them printed into a tiny book, along with some rare photos of her & her Mom & Siblings, plus some famous locations in Baltimore, where she & her Siblings & my Father were all  born. She met him in Richmond, when she came to visit her cousins!). So all I know about my "Family History" is in that little book, plus the fact that my Great-Great Grandfather in Poland was a Rabbi  & a Scholar of the Talmud.  I once had a great desire to visit Poland & see where my Great-Grandparents lived, but the village where they lived is no longer there, and the land  is covered by a large factory, according to my Sister, who actually saw the place. So all I can do is to look at the old photos in a book my Sister found at a book fair, about the old Jewish Community of Poland.  They all look like my ancestors may have looked. (My Mom told me that whenever her Grandmother saw a camera pointed in her direction, she would leave the room!  I guess that superstition left us with no memories of that generation other than "stories!"  

 

 

 

 

 

 


10/10/18 12:24 AM #599    

 

Marilyn Wolfe (Ruben)

Important Note to all Westhampton School Alumni: 

Belle Landrum has all the up-to-date details on Westhampton School!  She has complete architectural drawings & all the information you need available on email.  Send her a request at BelleLandrum@yahoo.com.   We are trying to save the large trees & the playground needs to be restored! 


10/10/18 08:06 AM #600    

 

Russell Flammia

Thanks for keeping us aware of the situation at Westhampton.


10/15/18 11:59 PM #601    

 

Marilyn Wolfe (Ruben)

Belle has a lot of details I don't have time to copy down, Russell!  

But she will be at  the next Tee Jay luncheon so you can hear them firsthand!


10/16/18 09:07 AM #602    

 

Russell Flammia

Thanks Marilyn,  looking forward to seeing her at the luncheon on Oct. 20.


10/17/18 11:13 PM #603    

 

Marilyn Wolfe (Ruben)

Good, Russell!  Maybe  she can find others for "our cause" at the Luncheon!


10/24/18 06:11 PM #604    

 

Marilyn Wolfe (Ruben)

 

I saw Belle's Post of all the buildings which are planned around the Elementary School Building of Westhampton School, minus the Junior High School Building, the playground, the concrete basketball, tennis, and hopscotch playground, and the athletic field.  It looks very crowded!  - no open spaces around it, and nowhere  for children to play!   It's times like these, when I wish I didn't live so far away!  I have no voice 3,000 miles away, and Bon Secours does not seem to care what anyone thinks, while they are busy "making money.". 

Belle thinks we should push to preserve the Playground area & move the Medical Office Building to the Parking Lot of the Hospital or at Willow Lawn Shopping Center!!! Plus, those big trees should be preserved!   If anybody reading this agrees, please call or write Bon Secours!  I called their Corporate Office in Maryland listed on the Internet, and they didn't even know about the project in Richmond! I think it is a poorly-managed operation with a horrible communications system!  But Belle and Mary Murray and I are only 3 people from our Class of 1958 at Westhampton! They need to hear from more voices!  I think it is a travesty!

There is a huge castle in Greece that was built many, many centuries ago (2,000-1500 B.C.E.) called "Knossos."  I think this is the TRUE model for Bon Secours, because they are playing "King" in what was once a a residential neighborhood.  There will be traffic problems & nowhere for kids to play!  All this, for Bon Secours' "Love of Money!"   I predict "Trouble ahead!"

Please speak up, by calling their Office or Writing to the Editor of the Richmond Times-Dispatch!

Thanks!

Marilyn Ruben

 


10/24/18 07:50 PM #605    

 

Belle Landrum

hi Marilyn,

Thank you for posting.\ some opf the info about Westhampton.  One correction.  I suggest that the medical building placed on Libbie Avenue be moved to Bon S. property at 5800-5900 PARK Avenue, across from the projected garage/apartment bldg that will take up the jr high building.  That would leave open the old children's playground and save the old trees and bushes.

Belle


10/24/18 08:26 PM #606    

 

Marilyn Wolfe (Ruben)

Good, Belle!  Hope it works out!


10/27/18 02:00 PM #607    

 

Jo-Ann Olkowski

For hours now I have been watching full coverage of the horrific situation at a Synagogue in Pittsburgh, PA where there have been multiple fatalities, three police officers shot and wounded by a crazed gunman, now in custody, purportedly shouting, "All Jews must die!".  To all my Jewish classmates whether I know them or not, I am so, so sorry this tragedy has happened.

All this bitterness, hatred, verbal and mob-like attacks have got to stop.  We are all better than this, it is not who we are.  This is not who were were as students. 

I can only say to all of you, "Be well, be safe." 

Jo-Ann


10/27/18 03:38 PM #608    

 

Marilyn Wolfe (Ruben)

Thanks, Jo-Ann!  We Jewish students appreciate your concern!  There is a rash of mentally ill people "out there" now who have been attacking churches and synagogues for a while, and all of them should have been living in an institution somewhere!  I don't know what we did wrong to engender all this hatred and violence, but from my professional training, I would say that either they are on drugs, or else they have been listening to too much "Hate Talk" on radio, tv, or online!   (Maybe both!)  Many churches & synagogues now hire Security Guards or Police Officers to protect them from harm, and they are stationed there BEFORE the troublemakers arrive!  It is a sad commentary on our times that this has to be done!  I, for one, think we need to have a Law against "Hate Speech" which needs to be passed in Congress and it could be Amended to Laws in many States against "Hate Letters & Inciting Violence!"  But I think we need to start at the White House, because most of the Hate Talk seems to come from there and the KKK!  These are very scary times!  And this week isn't even a Jewish holiday!  What to do?  Call your Congressman and U. S. Senators, plus State Legislators!  They are the only ones who can change this trend!

 


10/28/18 02:45 PM #609    

 

Russell Flammia

         JoAnn & Marilyn,  you have spoken well about what is the present and hopefully the temporary state of our nation. Sadly these attacks are almost becoming common place. When I wrote my last research paper for my master's degree I found many studies  showed  that much of the violence in our society was due to what we saw on TV and at the movies.  With 'advances' in technology we can add in other sources of video violence. After a certain point studies showed that individuals became insensitive to violence and its results. The sadness and hardships that are longlasting is seldom shown in these venues. Let's hope and pray that we will wake up as a nation.


10/28/18 06:59 PM #610    

 

Marilyn Wolfe (Ruben)

 

Ah, Russell, we think along the same lines, and I was not a History Major!  There was a lot of Research re. "The Effects of TV and Movie Violence on Kids and Adults" back in the 1960's and 1970's, but apparently, either all those Researchers have stopped teaching or publishing or gone to their home in heaven or nobody read the Research, except you and me in our generation!   Instead of making things better, everything got worse!  I remember walking out of a violent movie after we had lived in Arizona for over 10 years, and now there are less than 4-5 movies we go to see all year long!  Cable TV isn't any better than the old TV, and the Internet is even WORSE!  The "Hate Talk" is what really bugs me!  It always seems to "mushroom" into Violence!  I was trained in the area of "Prevention," but that is a word from our generation. Everything now is "Crisis-Oriented!". Wouldn't it be wonderful to pull out your old Research Papers from Grad School and find an audience that wanted to learn about "Prevention?" I'm sure your Students at TJ probably picked that up from you while you were teaching, but this is another generation coming up, and maybe they didn't have that good luck!  I had only one chance in Arizona to do that, and my audience was quite resistant to change!  How do we educate the public on important issues like this, when they don't want to listen?

Thanks for your comment!  I appreciate it very much!  I also wrote a lot of Research papers in Grad School, but mine were centered on "Family Systems," and Domestic Violence is STILL "out there," 36 years after I wrote my papers! Everything recycles, because people don't seem to want to learn from the past!

I personally can't wait until November!  A lot of people are looking for "Change!"


10/28/18 07:11 PM #611    

 

Ernie Bolling

Russell and classmates.  It is so terrible to see the killing of our Jewish fellow citizens.  This follows so many other similar cases including the shooting of the bible study in Charleston a few years back, the attemped bombings, shooting at varous schools, Las Vegas, and others,  At TJ one of the many good lessons I learned was religious tolenance.  I never remember "ever" seeing or hearing of any religious conflicts.  I value my Jewish and Christian friends and neighbors and  pray for all of them.  Our country and world need to embrace our differences and lean to coexist and love our neighbors.


10/28/18 08:16 PM #612    

 

Marilyn Wolfe (Ruben)

Thank you, Ernie!  Jo-Ann & I were just writing each other last week that we don't remember any incidents like this EVER happening in Richmond, or at Westhampton School or TJ!  Richmond always  had excellent Interfaith Relations!  Maybe Pennsylvania needs to set up a Council for that, too!  This is hard to comprehend, because anti-Semitic incidents have occurred in the Ukraine, in France, in New York, and in other synagogues recently, just like the ones in churches!  There are some very troublesome thoughts about religion in the minds of some people these days!  I like hearing the Pastors, Priests, and Rabbis speaking out about this, but somehow, they are not reaching "The Unaffiliated Ones" who are commiting these crimes.  I wish there was more "Prevention Programming" going on to reach that catchment group.  The Anti-Defamation League has prepared school programs on these topics.  I guess it is time to bring them back again!  These problems have been circulating since 1939-44 and even before then!!  In the words of Meir Kahane: "Never Again!" or we will be turning the clock  back 75 years!  It is good to have supportive  friends like we knew/ know  at TJ!  My daughter's in-laws have lived here for over 100 years, and they have built a strong support system here too!  That is the best way to counter-attack all the hate & violence "out there," I think!  Thank you for your kind thoughts, Ernie!  I appreciate that so much!  Our tiny synagogue here in Yuma only has 15-20 members now, because about 150-180 of them moved away or passed away!  We don't even list the address publicly!  Interested Jewish people who move here from out-of-town or who join our Marine Base  have to call on the phone to find out where the synagogue is located, because we share a building with a Humanistic Church!  A synagogue can never be"too safe!"


10/29/18 09:01 PM #613    

 

Marilyn Wolfe (Ruben)

Melvin Katz, I love the photos of you and Elsie in Greece! They are quite timely, because I am taking an online course about the History of Greek & Roman Art, and I have only seen their  Painted Vases, Stone Carvings, and Sculpture at the Virginia Museum of Fine Arts and th San Diego Museum of Art. I would LOVE to see Greece and Italy one day!  It looks like a fantastic trip!


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